Nick Diaz has been pulled from this Saturday night’s Strikeforce-EliteXC: Shamrock vs Le fight card. Drew Fickett will replace Diaz and fight Jae Suk Lim. Fickett was originally supposed to fight Jake Shields for the EliteXC welterweight title, but Shields also pulled himself off the card earlier this week with a back injury.
There is some controversy over why Diaz is no longer fighting however.
According to Armando Garcia and the California State Athletic Commission Diaz failed to turn in his medical information in enough time for the event. As a result, the CSAC will not allow Diaz to fight or collect his purse of $50,000.
Gary Shaw, EliteXC’s President, has a different side to the story. According to Shaw, Diaz is not allowed to fight because of his use of prescription medical marijuana. Shaw disputes the CSAC’s claim of submitting late medicals. Medical marijuana is legal in California and according to Caesar Gracie, Diaz’s manager, Nick has the prescription for attention deficit disorder.
“If you’re a fighter and you know you’re going to fight in a state that has a commission and they test for drugs — they have a doping program — you have to tell them way ahead of time, not three days before the weigh-in or the fight,” Garcia said. “You have to give the commission the opportunity to evaluate your ailment and the reason you were prescribed a certain drug. And if you don’t do that, you’re risking not fighting.”
Gary Shaw responded with the following:
“He does what you ask him, and you punish him?” said a puzzled Shaw. “It’s like if you have a Ferrari and a police officer gives you a speeding ticket before you turn the key.
“It wasn’t about lateness because I say you definitely can’t pull him off if your own doctor sent it in. We have guys getting licensed today, so you know it’s an outright lie.”
Nick Diaz is of course no stranger to marijuana or not being allowed to fight because of it. Diaz had a submission victory win over Takanori Gomi overturned last March and was suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for testing positive for the banned substance.
The winner of the Ficket-Lim fight will now go on to fight Jake Shields for the title.
diaz you dumb ****… ur one of my favs but common… its 50 g’s dog
That’s funny. Attention deficit disorder? I think Nick just wants to get high. To bad I like Diaz and was looking forward to seeing him fight. Gary is having to juggle this card around a lot. Hopefully things get cleared up and they put him on the CBS card.
LOL ya Mad i know what you mean, Weed to treat ADD?? LOL. I guess it could be a treatment in one way, with ADD you cant keep your attention focused, by smoking weed, you probably wont give a sht anyways lol. I guess technically that could be considered a treatment, atleast you dont feel bad about your ADD hehe.
have you ever smoked a joint and solved all the worlds problems? i have lots of times…. its just too bad i cant remember what i came up with later lol.
lol ofcourse RJ, but we went a step further and tape recorded some of the sessions hehe. Funny stuff man, but only to the people involved in the session, kid of like a “you had to be there” thing. :)
lol i remember back in the day getting fried with my boy and taping our selves and later i listened to it i as like wow, we were talking about the Navy loading mother Theresa into a cannon and shooting her into the ocean lol…. yeah you had to be there lol.
Supposedly the ADD keeps him from sleeping well at night, so he takes the weed to help him sleep…
Suuuurrreeeee Nick. Sure…
haha
a fatty and some chocolate cake will cure the most sleepless nights lol.
Nick Diaz is one of those dudes that will break the rules and be punished on purpose just to prove his point and his point is you cant tell Nick Diaz what do to. im going to completely side with Diaz on this one, hes a pot smoker and he got busted and punished for it so he found a legal way of doing it and hes still being punished. if the athletic commissions are going to ban one prescription medication they should ban all. the argument that weed dulls the senses and puts fighters at risk can be true for codeine or Oxycodone but these drugs are acceptable. im not saying they should let Diaz smoke weed im just saying it should be all or none.
hes just a ***** pot head …plain and simple
yeah but hes a pot head who at least had enough brains to try and do it legal lol.
I agree. Diaz should be allowed to fight with marijuana in his system if he does have a state licensed prescription for it from California.
The issue the CSAC is bringing up is saying they didnt get enough notice to be able to investigate the prescription. All prescriptions for drugs that are “banned” need to be researched to see if the fighter truly does need them or not.
It seems like the CSAC is just trying to be stubborn in this one to me.
I dunno Doc, that makes no sense to me.. You say you think he should be allowed to fight with weed in his system because he has a state licensed prescription?
Are you serious man??
What if he had a prescription for Steroids? there are alot more uses for steroids than just cheating at sports. Most notably would be the injury recovery times, increased resilience in training, less chances of injury, etc..
But because of the regulations, fighters are forced to tough it out, when it would make alot more sense to allow them steroids for injury related reasons. If they dont allow that, why would they allow Diaz to have weed in his system? that would be one hell of a double standard..
I think it should be taken on a case by case basis. Armando Garcia himself that they look at all prescribed medications and review them on a fighter by fighter basis.
My guess is that in the case of Nick Diaz, they will look at his past history and determine there is not sufficient enough cause for him to be prescribed marijuana. I think there probably could be some case where having marijuana in your system could be for a legit reason; although that person probably wouldn’t be a fighter in the first place. If they truly have an ailment that they need weed for, they most likely cant be a fighter.
I think certain steroids, if prescribed by a doctor, should be allowed. Not all steroids are anabolic steroids - there are plenty of steroids taken for psych issues and joint issues. For muscle-building steroids, sure they should not be allowed.
yup Doc, thats what i was gonna say, if you cant live without substances on the banned list, you shouldnt be a fighter.
I see what your saying about the steroids, and id be inclined to agree, based mostly on mending and preventing injuries, but in reality, they have to outlaw all steroids because they wont be able to tell with any degree of accuracy if they took anabolic steroids ASWELL as lets say “medicinal steroids”.
Look at Sherk, that guy didnt take any banned substances, but he got stripped for elevated nandrolone levels.
were you replying to my comment? and if so, could you elaborate a bit? lol
guys, i think the problem with weed is that it may be used to cover up something else in your system. Thats why they cant allow fighters to have weed in their system. I dont think its for enhancement or numbing pain, etc..
I think Diaz is just a chronic man, nothing wrong with that, but the fact is, he probably smokes enough weed that it will be in his system for months even if he stops. The medicinal thing is what keeps him out of jail lol, that doesnt mean he should be allowed to have it in his system during a fight.
you cant say ban it all or allow it all man.. thats a bit much, cuz then everyone would be on roids and it would be a competition of the pharmacists instead of the fighters..
i stick with the ban all or allow all theory because the thing with roids being used for the right reason should be ok too. your doctor wont prescribe you steroids to help you bulk up or work out harder but he will give you roids to help stop a respiratory problem or help heal tendinitis. steroids can be a good thing if used properly but im sure fighters (and any other pro athlete for that matter) use steroids the right way about as much as Diaz smokes weed to “sleep”. so i say ban em all, if you cant sleep at night and the only thing you can take for it is marijuana and its a ban substance then i guess you cant fight, if you hurt your shoulder and the only thing you can take to rehab is steroids and its band you cant fight. just my take on it, but then again i dont even think fighters should be able to take supplements. if you cant get in and throw down man to man without filling your body full of ANYTHING then your in the wrong game.
Its definitely a super touchy situation and very hard to handle. There are valid arguments on both sides
yeah its a Diaz thang lol. like i said before he wants to play by HIS rules and will push his luck when ever possible.
this is ***… just let him toke up and get high and fight… come on mothafukas
God you make me ashamed to be an American… guess thats why I drive a freaking Honda and a Toyota and I married a Brazilian, and I always pick Chuteboxe over the American “mothas” whatever..
It’s no secret that I’m not a fan of Nick Diaz. That being said, if he has a prescription for medical marijuana, then he should be allowed to disclose that prior to a medical and should be allowed to fight.
I’m working with several thousands of people here in Michigan to legalize marijuana for medical purposes. We were able to get enough signatures to put it on the November ballot. It will be interesting to see, now that MMA is sanctioned in Michigan, would the Boxing Commission here allow a fighter to fight if he had a medical marijuana prescription.
I haven’t smoked weed in 10 years, but I will defend what is right and in this case, the CSAC does not have the right to keep Nick from earning a living.
read my post Gatties, weed can be used as a concealing agent, thats why it cant be allowed. I smoke weed, but if your gonna be a pro athlete, you gotta make sacrifices man.
What if someone has a medical reason for using steroids? me and doc were discussing it see above..
I live in Denver and we did pass legalized marijuana for anyone over 18 years of age 2 years ago. Last year the voters almost passed the law for the entire state. The problem is that federal law still over rides state law so they still try and ticket people. Just because the city recognises it as legal the federal government still can interject. Medical marijuana is totally different. Users have to have a caregiver perscribe it a medication and have to be registered with the state and government. Nick is one of those “patients” and the state should still let him compete. I’ts not like pot is performance enhancing I think it actually hurts the athletes. Smoking anything is going to hurt your body and pot is no different.
again, like i said.. Its not about weed helping you perform.. it can be used as a concealing agent.
There is a line between morality and freedom, anarchy and personal freedoms…. this generation of Americans don’t understand MORALS, VALUES, COMMITMENT, PATRIOTISM, or THE FEAR OF A HIGHER POWER….
Legalized Marijuana is stupid, it is like a mild opiate and we all know what happens to countries who allow their populace to sit on those kinds of “soft” drugs in their down time, it creeps into their work, it creeps into their everyday lives, and it becomes something that dictates how they act and perceive life…. this is ridiculous, it should be banned along with all the other narcotics out there save medicinal narcotics for pain in only SERIOUS situations… why smoke a pain medicine when you can swallow a pill with water??? Why do you need to smoke weed for “medicinal purposes” buncha old hippies now in politics trying to legalize their fun.. … it shouldn’t be a right, it should be a moral obligation to keep our minds free from crap that would dilute our senses as a great people…
Some prolific words Kansas.. I agree with some of it, disagree with some of it.
I agree that legalizing and advertising weed on superbowl sunday is not the way to go. I do smoke weed, so i think Decriminalization makes more sense.
People who smoke weed arent necessarily criminals, they shouldnt be locked in a cage with child molesters, thieves and murderers. Does it make sense to grab a teenager for smoking weed and surround him with scumbags? go in as an offender, come out as a criminal…
Where i disagree with you Kansas is: “keep our minds free from that crap that would dilute our senses as a great people…”
I think our #1 advantage as a great people (i mean all of humanity not just as americans) is diversity. Perhaps something that dulls some senses amplifys others? just as you need the good elements of society, you need the bad, its a balance just like nature. Without that constant struggle, there would be no progress, just as you need sanity, morality and tolerance, you need insanity, rebellion and paranoia.
I believe these are essential to our existance both individually and as a species. Once everyone starts thinking the same way, were in trouble, we might plateau and then who knows how long it will take before revolution happens again.
we might have to change the name of the site to philosophyHQ lol
lol philosophyHQ yeah its getting deep in here lol. it seem a lot of the time when someone brings up the topic of legalizing marijuana two sides pick up arms and goto war over it. i like the way it is now, if i wanna buy some weed i can get it and theres not kids outside of a store trying to fish for an adult to get it for them. the police will never bother me about smoking a joint because i dont make a fool out of myself but im ok with the cops f*cking with some dipshit who IS getting stoned and causing problems.
@BV
I am a Christian so the “Yin & Yang” philosophy isn’t my thing… I don’t agree with it, and I think that Tolerance is a veiled term used these days for “tolerate my immoral lifestyle” because usually thats what it is… I don’t smoke weed, drink, or use any type of drug that alters my personality, state of being, way of thinking, acting, or reacting, but hey I can agree to disagree, its all opinion, although I feel mine on this subject rests on a foundation that is pretty solid…
Nuff said about this stuff… hey Big timeeehhh go ova there and whoop up on some nobodys! Whoooo HOOOOO! maybe he will get to actually fight some awesome HW like a rematch with Couture or Fedor or Mark Hunt, who knows… heck maybe even Donald Trump hehehe…
i cant smoke weed ..its makes me paranoid
Kansas, my beliefs require people to have different opinions works perfectly, everyone has their thing and everyones right. Thats the great thing about philosophy heh.
Unfortunately BV, everyone isn’t right, and your philosophy is modern tolerance so I am sure it goes over well with pagans, wiccans, buddists, and college age folks, or kids over at Hot Topic, or *** people you know but honestly, its not Truth unless it is a way to God and salvation… only Jesus Christ claimed Godness, and only Jesus Christ raised Himself up from death after taking our sins on Himself, all Saddartha “Buddah” did was live a “Middle Way” lifestyle and throw out some catchy lines, that have become compiled into a philosophy… Mohammed had a 12 year old wife, enough said, but furthermore he hailed by a small sect as a prophet, not a God, he died, and is dead - the only way to heaven with his way was through BOOM! so yeah.. not too excited about that.. Hinduism, my gosh I have been to India, its a ridiculous religion with so much hole punched mysticism that its not truely a religion but a philosophy of cartoons and fairy tales… only thing good out of it was Kama Sutra! LOL! Catholicism is a mix of Christianity and Roman Mysticism, its not really Christianity, but there are many good people in all these religions and many bad people in them … Truth is Truth, philosophy is not Truth, its is scraps of wisdom compiled and discussed, while we puff ourselves with pride and say “i will never tell you my way is THE WAY” as if our “Tolerance and Godlessness” is somehow a good thing for society and the world… lol
I think its the same problem our generation has with marriage or the lack thereof, they are afraid of committment, to say I am sticking with this and this is the right one for me, so they live with someone and therefore they can flirt, play around, whatever, but hey why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free…. thats a philosophy, but it doesn’t mean its right or even intelligent.. matter of fact its pretty cold and selfish.. most philosophy is pretty basic anyways.. its the nuts and bolts of if i died today, what would happen??? WORM FOOD, or is there an afterlife where i will give an account??? Hope for your sake your right, but I know your not so I will again.. agree to disagree but BV… I am praying for you man! Not in a judgemental I am better than you pios way, because I am not like that, but in a friend way… just cause I think there is a deeper supernatural unseen world out there that gives more meaning than the one thats been pulled over our eyes… for copies of my book please call 1800-900-8888…. kidding… lol
Well Kansas, I believe alot of things, because the “yin and yang” concept makes sense to me, doesnt make me a buddhist. If it has to be classified, im agnostic, meaning the belief in an unknown god or higher power. I believe there is something, but i dont think anyone knows what it is.
Lets talk about the tolerance thing, when i was younger i used to make fun of religious people, christians mostly for a few reasons. Firstly, my family is christian and i was baptised and everything. I would question the stories, and when you talk about inconsistancy, the books of christianity have a hell of alot of holes too, which im not going to get into unless you want to, because it tends to offend people.
I was 12 at the time when i had my spiritual revolution, i started investigating other faiths, mysticism, etc.. Ive prayed, ive meditated and it clearly didnt suit me. The next logical step was philosophy, both ancient and modern.
I had alot of muslim friends any they turned me on to books about Islam and explained to me why its “the truth”. Stuff like how the book accurately describes fetal development which could only be realized with high power microscopes which obviously werent around at the time. In my opinion, those “facts” are just modern interpretations of the text which were not intended in the original script.
So any religion just wasnt my thing, after reading “beyond good and evil” by Friederich Neitzsche, i felt i finally found something i could identify with. It basically traces the origins of morality, why morals were created, by who and for what reason. It centers mostly on christianity, because jesus was the first “martyr god”, before that all diety were gods of POWER, like RA the sun god for example. We can talk about this more if you want, because again.. you may find it offensive.
So lets wrap this up, my initial views about ridiculing people because of their beliefs was wrong. Religion and Philosophy exist to make you sleep at night, whatever helps you cope with the trials of life is your business and not for anyone to challenge. Thats why i say everybody is right, nobody is wrong, because you simply cant be wrong by believeing in something that nobody knows for sure. The only way to know is to die, its the ultimate gag hehe.
I realise that you strongly believe that your way is “the truth” i also feel that way about my beliefs but “tolerance” is what allows multiculturalism to exist. Its what allows us to all to have our beliefs, think were right without saying others are wrong.
Look at the Nazis lol, they thought they were right, infact all the biggest wars in history were based on trying to convert people by force to abandon their beliefs. If the death of millions upon millions taught us anything, its to respect other peoples beliefs, cultures, etc..
Check this video guys, Joe Rogan doing a stundup routine about Noahs Ark. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1612011908
I personally dont try and discredit what people choose to believe, but Rogans a comedian and kind of a ****, so he doesnt really care.
LOL its funny as comedy, just like laughing at a racist joke doestn make you a racist, just jokes man, but check it out hehe.
guys i have been reading ur comments and to tell u guys the truth guys like kansas is whats wrong with america,meaning his unwilling ness to bend.THE TREE THAT BENDS DOESNT BREAK.I truly believe that there is something bigger than all of us,but that we should live our lives worrying if what we do today will affect our place in our afterlife’s.Another wierd thing about religion is that it probably one of the worlds biggest killers people everyday die for religion and kill for it to.
i meant that we shouldnt lead our lives
Religion, philosophy and belief structures arent the problem rich, its the way people act on them that becomes the problem.
If people want religion to dictate how they live their life, theres nothing wrong with that and nobody can tell them its wrong.
ex: if they want to believe that eating pork is a sin, thats fine with me, dont eat pork. When someone tells me that im wrong for eating pork, thats when it becomes a problem.
I let God dictate my life.. not a religion.. theres a difference.. I am more spiritual than religious…
Kansas, this post was a reply to Richard saying we shouldnt lead our lives worrying about what happens in the afterlife. I wasnt talking about you man heh.
Rich, guys like me aren’t the problem with America.. Guys like me founded America…
Get your head out of the revised history books and study the founding documents..
Tolerance of peoples diversity is necessary, but not what has made us great.. being founded a Christian nation made us great, people coming and becoming and melting in made us great… this new era of utilitarian individualism has really segregated society more than slavery or racism ever did.. we all talk about tolerance, but RICH wheres the love man? If I believe Jesus is the Messiah, and that the *** lifestyle is wrong, I get hated on by darn near the whole blog… whats TOLERANT about that… if I voted for the candidate that you didn’t or am a conservative you guys bash… whats TOLERANT about that??? If I believe that our nation is the greatest on the planet and think its worth fighting for and dying for and love the flag and all of that I get HATED, (key word hate - intolerance for another’s views) on for that… so guys what your really saying is that you will TOLERATE people that are in your enclave and hold to your politically correct yet liberal views on religion, but if someone stands for traditional righteousness, they are shot down immediately and called to the carpet and questioned by the modern day “inquisition” of liberal thinkers that say if you don’t adhere to our doctrines of humanism and tolerance, you wont be TOLERATED???? That in itself is hate… I don’t hate anyone, I just BELIEVE in my faith.. and what it entails, so is it wrong for me to really be solid in that and even share it with others? 20 years from now I see people like you guys putting people like me in jail or prison camps in the name of tolerance…
i believe this country was founded on freedom,i believe in jesus christ myself,i also think america is the greatest country in the world i just dont agree with the people who run it.And im sorry buddy but the people who run this country are conservative christian white america.
DEEEEEEEEP… wow this is a great debate and i like hearing everyones views on life and religion. the only problem i have with religion (besides people killing each other over it) is people trying to sell me there views. i dont want people knocking at my door or cornering me in the mall asking me if i’ve “been saved yet” my idea of tolerance is like this: i will not tell you that your wrong or look down on you for your beliefs or actions now matter how much i disagree with you as long as your not harming me or my family or trying to cram it down my throat. im not going to try and say your god is not real just dont tell me im a sinner and am going to hell. there is very good guide lines to live by in most religion and people would do well to listen to those guide lines just dont get pissed and tell someone there bad for not going to a church once a week and bowing to something they dont believe in. i am a good person and i take care of my family and i dont hurt anyone who doent deserve it, so if there is a heaven im sure i will see you all there even though i dont follow ANY one religion.
You know RJ… I understand where you are coming from…. I respect that…. honestly its not me or any one person in my faith that is rejected…. its the MESSAGE of the Bible that is rejected, because it is offensive to those that don’t believe like yourself, its the Bible that invites people to Jesus and His way - and it was He that said “I am the way” “the only way to the Father, (ie heaven/God) is through ME..
So to RJ, RICH, BV… you guys are my MMA bloggin pals and I got much love for you in a pure organic :) way… its the message of my God that offends you, not me… lol… I just happen to be the guy on this site that believes him..
Much LOVE to you all ..
RJ basically saying the same thing as me, to each their own and dont hate on others for their beliefs.
Kansas man, i KNOW your not trying to say i hated on you lol. I deliberatly went out of my way not to hate.
Your the one who said certain beliefs are “wrong”, i said everybodys right and nobody has the right to challenge that.
All i said was, believe whatever you want, you say im wrong lol. Theres not much else i can say man, i believe that people should have their own opinion and your basically saying, if your not christian, your wrong.
I am not saying if your not Christian your wrong.. I am saying that the only way to heaven, is through Yeshua, better known in the west as Jesus… thats it…. all I am saying I believe.. if you don’t thats on you man.. I still love you bro.. I don’t look down on you.. think your crap… think your opinions on MMA suck… I just don’t think you will inherit eternal life… so what.. like you care what I think on the subject anyways… I care about people and their eternal lives, not just their temporal lives… so it prompts me to speak… and sometimes what I say offends, and sometimes it doesn’t… conversation online on an MMA blog site isn’t the catalyst for my faith anyways, the subject just kinda went in that direction, mostly because of the subject matter on Marijuana and the “right or wrong” of using it or legalizing it..
i have to agree with u on that bvrasp
Uh, Kansas, one more thing, what was all that about being ***?? the *** lifestyle? lol wtf are you tlaking about?
Too deep over your head…
Kidding thats my way of avoiding a rehash of a burnt topic
i believe in jesus i believe in god or a higher power no matter what it is. But believe it or not kansas its u thats ignorant buddy i cant explain ur the worst kind of ignorant there is u think thers only one path for wright but so many for wrong,when the truth is there are as many wrights as there is wrongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooo angry….
I agree with RJ … I would die for my faith no doubt, but i would NEVER even entertain or understand “killing someone for their faith or religion”….
I am not ignorant Richard, I am educated, that is probably WHY I stand where I do, you don’t know me buddy, so you really are out of turn speaking about me based on a couple of blog posts…
Ok, glad we got that out of our system, lets get back to mma before we start a holy war lol.
i’ll second that one, thats one of the things i dont like about this topic i feel like its ok to be willing to die for your beliefs but i dont like the idea of being will to kill for them.
Here HERE! I second that.. therefore can I get a third… Roberts Rules of Order per our US Congress state we need a third! I suppose Patrick’s “AMEN” will have to do… done…
BACK TO MMA! LOL!
I 3rd it lol. But i will say this, Kansas could you imagine there was a die hard muslim guy on the site with us? LOL it might have gotten ugly.
he might have mail bombed you lol
you mean email bomb lol although im sure its a bit tough to sent Anthrax over the internet lol.
amen