Brandon Vera has been one of the most talked about heavyweight fighters in MMA recently, with all of that attention due to his contract dispute/negotiations with the UFC. Vera currently has one fight left to fulfill on his UFC contract which expires this September. It was thought that Vera would have had a title shot against Tim Sylvia already, but the UFC is not going to give a title shot to a fighter not under long-term contract.
MMAlowdown.com is citing an article from WrestlingObserver.com which discusses the current state of contract negotiations between Vera and the UFC.
According to Dave Meltzer of Wrestlingobserver.com, the UFC offered Brandon Vera $200,000 guaranteed per fight, with much more if he wins the title and headlines Pay Per Views.
Brandon Vera and his camp shot back with a demand of a $1.5 million signing bonus with seven figures guaranteed per fight on a three fight deal, which was the same amount offered by Gary Shaw of Elite XC, as soon as Vera’s contract expires in September. The UFC thought the offer was laughable and turned it down without any thought at all. Gary Shaw did confirm to Meltzer the figures were accurate.
Now, there is no verification that any of this information is correct. In fact, Gary Shaw of EliteXC has made a point to say that he will not negotiate with any fighter currently under contract with another organization.
If the UFC really has made an offer of $200,000 per fight to Brandon Vera, I personally think he is a fool to not accept such an offer. While Vera is an exciting up-and-coming fighter, he really hasn’t beaten anyone of note in his career. In fact, you could argue that his “biggest” win to date was against a past-his-prime Frank Mir.
For Vera to “demand” over a million per fight with a 1.5 million dollar signing bonus is crazy, IF IT IS TRUE. I’m not so sure these numbers can be completely trusted, but I’m putting them out there for you to decide on your own.
Personally, I think $200,000 per fight is even too much to offer Vera at this point.
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for sure now he aint in the top five espically in the world helllll no not even close he should of stepped in to fight liddel
Vera is asking WAY TOO MUCH. 200 G’s for Vera is very applauding! He should be greatful and take the deal. Brandon is a great fighter and is no doubt on his way up, but business is business. No matter how much you don’t agree with Dana or the top Brass, they are re-building a fallen empire and doing a good job at that. Yes, I will agree that the favortism is noticed but the bottom Line is that as the sport grows…so will the payrolls and hopefully the diversity as well.
vera is back and going to kick UFC heavyweight butt! i guess the deal was made and vera is back and maybe fighting in October…the truth has returned…HOLLA *******!
I remember Vera calling out Chuck Liddell after his first outing in the octagon. Now that Chuck has been dethroned, maybe we’ll get to see that fight after all.
If not, I hope he destroys some heavyweights.
@R.J.,
Vera not top 5? Would you agree Top 7??
Read the article released on UFC.com about his return to the Octagon. Dana is predicting a championship bout for Vera in 08, so i am thinking the same way the boss is…..can’t argue with that…..
@Jeff
im sure if the time is right Dana and the UFC will call Vera the #1 contender, but just because the UFC might call Vera a top ten guy doesnt make it true. i can think of at least 10 or 15 fighters who have done way more in the sport of mma then Vera and there not even seen as top ten. i wouldnt even put Vera in the top five of just the UFC. sometimes you gotta look past the hype and look at there track record.
Vera might have demanded a lot, but there’s some evidence out there that his former manager was holding out on him… so you can’t be so quick to point the finger at The Truth. Here’s a link that I found that goes deeper into the story of the split between Vera and Mark Dion, his former manager.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AqKaSN4UtVkpar1ahKDOpCWUxLYF?slug=ki-vera083001&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
For all his critics out there, here are a few stats of his to take note of:
Vera is undefeated in his MMA career – 8 wins, 0 losses.
Out of those 8 wins, 6 are TKO’s, 1 is from submission, 1 is from decision (Not in UFC).
None of his UFC fights have gone to the final round.
Granted, I don’t believe he’s been put to the test of his abilities, but his victories have one thing in common: THEY HAVE ALL BEEN DECISIVE. He deserved to be ranked among the top heavyweights back then, and until someone (Sylvia, Couture, Arlovski, Mirko “I totally suck in the UFC” Cro Cop, etc.) can take that away, I feel he’s still one of the best out there. Quit hating on him and let the man fight. Personally I’d love to see him go up against Arlovski because I think his losses to Sylvia were flukes, and I believe Arlovski will truly bring a challenge to The Truth’s unblemished record.
Bottom line, Brandon will be 9-0 after October 20th, and the doubters and skeptics are gonna have to shut their mouths.
OUT.
Please vera will knock out all of you’s. He is a great fighter.. he is George St. Pierre in the heavy weith division. I personally think Cro-cop is struggling right now.. He got knocked out by Gonzaga and he could not finish Kongo. Besides like Randy Couture said about Cro-cop, he is a one dimensional fighter..Get Cro-cop on the ground and his is in trouble. I think Vera can beat Cro-cop and he can get away with getting more money.. good for him. Vera is A great fighter.. and he’s destroyed every one put in front of him.. maybe he has not fought top 10 ranked guys but every one in the ufc is good.. that’s why theyr’e there – and he’s crushed every one.. and wev’e seen he has great submission.. give the guy some credit.. ANd i won’t be surprise if he knocked out Cro-cop..
i wouldnt be saying vera is the gsp of the heavywieght division cuz that means he will get the belt then lose it to a”nobody”in a devastating fashion
So Gsp lost.. ok that happens.. but the guy is great.. and that’s what i meant comparing Gsp to Vera.. He has devastating ko power, quick, great submission, great stand up, great clinch, good grappling.. he’ll fight where ever the fight goes.
Most heavy weights are one dimensional.. I’m sure Gsp is still wondering how he lost to Serra. **** happens! especially in MMA.. Gotta love it!!!!!!
SOME GREAT DREAM FIGHTS
RAMPAGE VS COUTURE
GSP VS ANDERSON SILVA
CHUCK LIDDELL VS CRO-COP
HUGHES VS KYRO KARISIAN
KENFLOW VS BJ PENN
MATT SERRA VS DIEGO SANCHEZ
KONGO VS TIM SILVIA
BRANDON VERA VS ARLOVSKI
EVAN TANNER VS JEREMY HORN
RICH FRANKLIN VS ORTIZ
MICHAEL BISPING VS FORREST GRIFFIN
THESE WOULD BE AWESOME TO WACTH!! WHAT??
[quote comment="9993"]SOME GREAT DREAM FIGHTS
HUGHES VS KYRO KARISIAN
[/quote]
Kyro Karisian???
Who the heck is that, hahaha
r u serious?
[quote comment="9996"]r u serious?[/quote]
I am dead serious.
I assume you are talking about Karo Parisyan. Never heard of Kyro Karisian though.
LOL Masacre, you sound like your fairly new to MMA, but some of those matches would be interesting, although most of them you mentioned are not even in the same weight classes hehe.
NEW TO MMA?? I DON’T THINK SO BUDDY.. SINCE UFC 1 I’VE BEEN A FAN.. AND I KNOW THEY SOME ARE NOT IN THE SAME WEIGHT CLASS – THAT’S WHY THEY ARE DREAM FIGHTS.. BUT THEY SURE WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE.. YEA KARO PARISIAN .. THAT’S WHO I MEANT.. MISPELLED HIS NAME..
[quote comment="9993"]SOME GREAT DREAM FIGHTS
RAMPAGE VS COUTURE
GSP VS ANDERSON SILVA
CHUCK LIDDELL VS CRO-COP
HUGHES VS KYRO KARISIAN
KENFLOW VS BJ PENN
MATT SERRA VS DIEGO SANCHEZ
KONGO VS TIM SILVIA
BRANDON VERA VS ARLOVSKI
EVAN TANNER VS JEREMY HORN
RICH FRANKLIN VS ORTIZ
MICHAEL BISPING VS FORREST GRIFFIN
THESE WOULD BE AWESOME TO WACTH!! WHAT??[/quote]
a lot of these matches would be cool to see but i think my dream matches would reach a bit farther then just UFC. here is a few for ya…
Gomi vs. Sanchez
Lawler vs. A. Silva
Sakurai vs. Hughes 2
Renzo vs. A. Silva
here an out of the blue one: Chris Horodecki vs. Roger Huerta
heres one NOBODY thought of: Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva
Karo Parisyan vs. BJ Penn
Mark Hunt vs. Eric Pele
Fedor vs. Randy (thats a no brainer)
Barnett vs. Sylvia
i could go on like this all day but heres a few for now.
p.s.
[quote comment="9993"]EVAN TANNER VS JEREMY HORN[/quote]
count me in!!! awesome pick!
i like eric pele vs hunt and also hordecki vs huerta,awesome rj
i want to see
gomi vs diaz 2
gomi vs bj 2 since bj likes to stand much more now
vera vs liddel
vera vs arlovski
henderson vs silva
henderson vs liddel
houston alexander vs bisbing just so bisbing could get knocked the fu*ck out
RJ best pick i heard in a while Hughes vs Sakurai 2, although i myself mentioned that months ago hehe
Man theres so many combinations of fighter matchups i would like to see.. i wanna see all these guys fight.. so ill concentrate my list on one fighter. Ive always been a Hughes fan, i know people hate him, but theyre haters hehehe, Matt Hughes is a fkn pimp, end of story.
He says he has 3-4 fights left in him, heres the matches i would most like to see.
Hughes vs Sakurai 2
Hughes vs BJ 3
Hughes vs GSP 3
Hughes vs Karo
Hughes vs Nick Diaz
Hughes vs Sanchez
you guys want a real dream match? Gilbert Melendez vs Roger Huerta! you put both these guys to the test?? what better way????
@Masacre
Ah ok i see what you mean. Personally ive never been a fan of the OW matchups or tournaments, it doesnt make sense for the smaller guy. Can he win? ofcourse, is he at a disadvantage? definately.. but the worst part about it is the greater chance of injury, and especially when hes a great fighter, its always terrible to see.
Of all your picks i liked Hughes vs Karo the best, thats one of my picks too.
[quote comment="10016"]you guys want a real dream match? Gilbert Melendez vs Roger Huerta! you put both these guys to the test?? what better way????[/quote]
@BVRASP
I don’t know f you have seen this around but Huerta vs Guida is going to be the headliner for the TUF 6 finale. It should be a great test for both of them especially Roger. Guida has already been in there with some tough guys so we know he’s for real. This will be Huerta’s biggest test so we’ll see how he does.
@MAD
oh really? no i didnt know that.. who else is on the card????
So then if Huerta beats Guida, which i believe he would, it would be an even better matchup with Melendez hehe. The UFC has to nab that guy quick.
[quote comment="10021"]@MAD
oh really? no i didnt know that.. who else is on the card????[/quote]
I’ts the TUF finale so I bet there will be alot of guys fron the show and former contestants like usual.
I like Melendez also he’s a great competitor. The lightweight division is crazy now there sre so many good guys. I think the UFC needs to snatch Chris H from the IFL also he going to be really good in the next couple of years.
well its finally going to happen 10/20/07. Brandon Vera gets to back up all of my **** talking. I have felt he was in the top five for a while now and am going to put a heavy bet on the Truth. Tim will be beaten in every aspect of this fight and it will not make it 3 rounds. Vera should be no more than 2 fights away from a title shot and thats because he held out for more cash. If he did not he would have gotten the title shot after
he beats Tim. He will probally have to fight Noguaria or C0ngo after tim and then get his shot. Randy will get plenty of time to let the broken arm suffered in the Gonzoga fight heal first. Top heavys (1 Fedor 2Randy 3Barnett 4Vera 5 Gonzaga) Long shot prediction= Franklin controls
the Dangerous spider on the ground and gets the upset
LOL VERA AINT IN THE TOP 5 PESHH
bvrasp,
I SEE UR POINT ESPECIALLY REGARDING INJURY BUT U DO HAVE TO ADMIT THOSE GUYS ARE CLASSIC FIGHTERS.. TO GO AND FIGHT 3 TIMES W/ 3 DIFFERENT GUYS IN ONE NIGHT IS BRUTAL.. I GIVE MY HAT OUT TO THE REAL EARLY PIONEERS OF THIS GREAT SPORT. LIKE: GRACIE, DAN SAVERN, DON FRYE, MARK COLEMAN, SHAMROCK, ETC..
KARO VS HUGHES WOULD BE NICE..
HOW BOUT KENNY FLORIAN VS HUGHES
SHERK VS HUGHES 2
N WHAT ABOUT RICH FRANKLIN VS FORREST GRIFFIN ? WHAT!!!??
VERA VS SYLVIA IS GONNA BE SWEET.. BUT I HAVE TO GO WITH VERA ON THIS ONE. COUTURE TOTALLY DOMINATED SYLVIA AND HE CLEARLY SHOWED SYLVIA IS STRICTLY A ONE DIMENSIONAL FIGHTER.. VERA IS BETTER ALL AROUND AND IS MORE EXCITING TO WATCH.. IF SYLVIA DON’T KNOCK U OUT HIS FIGHTS ARE PRETTY BORING.
VERA VS KONGO WOULD BE DOPE.
LIDDELL VS CRO-COP (THEY BOTH HAVE 2 RECENT LOSSES)
CANT WAIT TO SEE GEORGE ST. PIERRE WIN THE TITLE AGAIN.. HE’S SUCH A GOOD SPORT..
BOO GO AWAY VERA… YOU SUCK DONKEY *****
I got a good one…
Tim Sylvia vs. Jens Pulver
bored………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
how bout .. Vera vs Macho man Randy Savage..
****!! Vera would get killed…. ohhh yea..
VERA VS LIDDELL WOULD BE GOOD.. VERA CALLED OUT LIDDEL ON HIS UFC DEBUT.. EVEN DO AFTER DA JARDINE FIGHT I THINK VERA WOULD DESTROY LIDDELL.. AND WHEN U THINK ABOUT IT LIDDELL HE IS ALSO A ONE DIMENSIONAL FITGHTER.. JUST STRICTLY STAND UP.. GETS PRETTY BORING.. EVERY BODY WHO’S LOST AGAINST HIM HAVE FOUGHT HES FIGHT BUT LOOK AT COUTURE/LIDDELL ONE.. COUTURE BEAT HIM BY PURE TACTICS.. SAME AS LIDDELL/ HORN 1. I THINK LIDDELL IS WASHED UP.. COULD BE WRONG BUT THAT CELEBRITY LIFESTYLE IS CATCHING UP TO HIM..
COULD ANY BODY IMAGINE MMA HAD TAG TEAMS??? WHAT!!!???
[quote post="475"]how bout .. Vera vs Macho man Randy Savage..
****!! Vera would get killed…. ohhh yea.. [/quote]
too funny man.
unlike some other guys on here i’ll admit i’m still pretty new to watching UFC on a regular basis, although i still remember some of the early breakouts of UFC (Royce, the Shamrocks, Vitor, Tank, etc…) only the last couple of years i’ve really started becoming a fan, i think mostly because it’s way more organized now. it’s more legit. before it was just guys beating each other up, which for me as a teenager at the time, was freakin’ awesome. now that i’m a little older and more professional, seeing MMA develop into the newest and most exciting sport, you can’t help but become attached.
that being said, here’s some of the dream fights mentioned i’d love to see.
vera vs. liddell/arlovski/kongo
hughes vs. penn 3
griffin vs. franklin/silva
huerta vs. melendez/sherk
how about bringing cung le to ufc? thoughts?
Cung le to ufc? Hadn’t thougth about that one.. that would be interesting.. HOW BOUT BRINGING OVER SOME WEC FIGHTERS OVER.. ?? THAT’LL BE COOL TOO..
As far as MMA EVOLVING INTO THE GREATEST SPORT EVER.. I AGREE W/ U DSTREET. IT IS NOW THE BEST SPORT EVER IN MY OPINION.. I’VE ALWAYS LOVED COMBAT SPORTS.. BUT NOW WITH MMA TRULY MATURED INTO AN ART OF COMBAT.. THIS MAKES REGULAR BOXING OR ANY ONE STYLE OF FIGHTING BORING.
THANK GOD FOR MMA..
whoa… i was going through this thread and i went by a post from Dennis and it almost freaked me out, but then i noticed it was from 7 months ago. lol man, its kinda like Elvis or Bigfoot next thing you know we’ll have “hillbillys” claiming Dennis sighting (the long time MMHQ guys should get the “hillbilly” reference)
RJ..
huh? what u talking bout man? didn’t get it..hillbillies, bigfoots..Andre the giant.. what..? lol
[quote comment="10077"]RJ..
huh? what u talking bout man? didn’t get it..hillbillies, bigfoots..Andre the giant.. what..? lol[/quote]
lol like i said the long time MMHQ readers will get. i thought i had a Dennis sighting but i was wrong. if you dont know who Dennis is (like a lot of you dont) he WAS a poster here and one day he disappeared. if you ever wanted to argue he was the man to see day or night. Dennis always had an argument on the go.
Yea I kinda miss Denis also for some wierd reason. He’s been MIA for months now and he’s still the post king. He disappeared right before Chuck’s losing streak whick sucks because I’m sure everyone wanted to give him grief. We had some good back and forth debates some days. Hope he’s doing well.
Yeah the ice fan melted because Chuck went retarded and on a losing streak which will ensue forthcoming a match with the most devastating striker in 205 Mr. Axe murder Wanderlei Silva, future LHW champion of the UFC just as he was in Pride, and no pedestal here… he is just really freaking good when he is rested and focused.. not to mention he is only 31 years old and he brings 5 months of training with Team Quest and Randy Couture with him ALONG with Chuteboxe.. any better teams out there than those two???? Nope…. point made, and Hackleman by the way has trained how many Golden Boy Champs??? 1…. and he melted.. frosty the iceman melted…
@ kansas ….lol…the most devastating striker in 205 huh..lmao…..Yea he is one of them, but not the best. Let me reiterate to you something…AGAIN…..your boy wandy is good dont get me wrong…but the axman knocked out as many or if not more wrestlers AND submision specialist that probably any body else in ufc OR pride…now i understand that you are totally mystified by this mans name let alone his record…but in all reality, let me say it again and for the last time. Wandy is no better than chuck in any way,shape,or form. He just made a living the same way chuck did…..By knocking out submission specialist and wrestlers..well in your case japanese wrestling legends,which made the japanese fans love him even more!!!!!! But he is a bad boy dont get me wrong but this should be a good one
OK.. I WANT TO SEE SOME BLOOD
SOME BROKEN BONES
AND I WANT TO SEE IT NOW..
ANY BODY VS ANYBODY.. RIGHT NOW…
I CAN’T WAIT TILL OCT. 20, 07 VERA VS SILVIA FRANKLIN VS SILVA…
WITH SO MUCH FIGHTERS IN UFC THEY SHOULD HAVE MATCH UPS EVERY WEEK……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUESTION..
WHERE OR WHAT LINK/SITE CAN I FIND THE KEITH JARDINE VS ALEXANDER HOUSTON FIGHT TO DOWNLOAD IT. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT BUT I HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. I WISH TO SHOW IT TO SOME BUDDIES OF MINE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET. BUT WHERE??
ANY SUGGESTIONS..??
[quote comment="10131"]OK.. I WANT TO SEE SOME BLOOD
SOME BROKEN BONES
AND I WANT TO SEE IT NOW..
ANY BODY VS ANYBODY.. RIGHT NOW…
I CAN’T WAIT TILL
OCT. 20, 07
VERA VS SILVIA
FRANKLIN VS SILVA…
WITH SO MUCH FIGHTERS IN UFC THEY SHOULD HAVE MATCH UPS EVERY WEEK……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
RIGHT ON!!
[quote comment="10152"]QUESTION..
WHERE OR WHAT LINK/SITE CAN I FIND THE KEITH JARDINE VS ALEXANDER HOUSTON FIGHT TO DOWNLOAD IT. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT BUT I HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. I WISH TO SHOW IT TO SOME BUDDIES OF MINE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET. BUT WHERE??
ANY SUGGESTIONS..??[/quote]
Masacre, try this link:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23fhu_houston-alexander-vskeithjardine_sport
DR. J
THANKS A MILLION BUDDY.. I OWE U ONE.