Comments on: UFC 84: Ill Will Fighter Payouts http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/ ...MMA News and Analysis... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:22:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15350 MMAKansas Wed, 28 May 2008 16:56:36 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15350 @BV. all good points.. ehhhh yeah on the subject of Gatties.. he kinda read that and went into 'douche bag mode".. lol.. so here we go.. the guys gonna post more BS in the next 4 days then in the past year that i've been on here.. lol.. @BV.
all good points..

ehhhh yeah on the subject of Gatties.. he kinda read that and went into ‘douche bag mode”.. lol.. so here we go.. the guys gonna post more BS in the next 4 days then in the past year that i’ve been on here.. lol..

]]> By: bvrasp http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15344 bvrasp Wed, 28 May 2008 04:20:15 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15344 for suuure Jardine has holes, same with Forrest, but what i see is how far these guys have come man. I dont think anyone expected them to improve so much so fast. Look at Florian too, i think the main factor is these guys deciding to become full time fighters, join great camps and seriously see fighting as their future. Fighting guys like Chuck and Wandy is essential to your experience and to guage yourself as a fighter. Could you imagine the feeling of stepping into the ring with guys like that? then imagine beating them?? imagine what that would do for your confidence as a fighter! not to mention your bankroll. Look at Matsui, he pretty much got whipped in every fight, but look who hes fighting! i have a ton of respect for that guy. for suuure Jardine has holes, same with Forrest, but what i see is how far these guys have come man. I dont think anyone expected them to improve so much so fast.

Look at Florian too, i think the main factor is these guys deciding to become full time fighters, join great camps and seriously see fighting as their future.

Fighting guys like Chuck and Wandy is essential to your experience and to guage yourself as a fighter. Could you imagine the feeling of stepping into the ring with guys like that? then imagine beating them?? imagine what that would do for your confidence as a fighter! not to mention your bankroll.

Look at Matsui, he pretty much got whipped in every fight, but look who hes fighting! i have a ton of respect for that guy.

]]> By: bvrasp http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15343 bvrasp Wed, 28 May 2008 04:10:54 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15343 Kansas, lol to the Gatties comment, but seriously Jason has been ok in his last 3 posts, he didnt insult anyone so i say we give him a chance to not be a douche anymore.. Let me ask you this.. You think Houston could go 3 rounds with Chuck? or 3 rounds with anyone for that matter??? no man, hes a first round haymaker one trick pony. Not to say hes a sissy or something, he a guy whos strong and tough enough to have a punchers chance of taking out anyone in the game if he connects. BUT hes not a trained fighter period. Jardine went the distance with Chuck and BEAT Chuck because he can box. I wouldnt say hes a better boxer than Chuck, but he sure out-boxed Chuck THAT night. It wasnt some lucky punch, Chuck may have not been 100% but Jardine had the skills to capitalize on the situation, something Houston could never do. Kansas, lol to the Gatties comment, but seriously Jason has been ok in his last 3 posts, he didnt insult anyone so i say we give him a chance to not be a douche anymore..

Let me ask you this.. You think Houston could go 3 rounds with Chuck? or 3 rounds with anyone for that matter??? no man, hes a first round haymaker one trick pony. Not to say hes a sissy or something, he a guy whos strong and tough enough to have a punchers chance of taking out anyone in the game if he connects. BUT hes not a trained fighter period.

Jardine went the distance with Chuck and BEAT Chuck because he can box. I wouldnt say hes a better boxer than Chuck, but he sure out-boxed Chuck THAT night. It wasnt some lucky punch, Chuck may have not been 100% but Jardine had the skills to capitalize on the situation, something Houston could never do.

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15342 MMAKansas Wed, 28 May 2008 04:07:13 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15342 I was seriously, just stirring the pot for kicks and grins.. and I do focus on right and wrong waaay too much.. lol for you guys anyways but for me its right.. everything is relative to you so what do you care.. Jardine should never have fought Wandy, they told him he would get next shot at the title after forrest I guarantee if he won, that's the only incentive I could see for him to sign on.. he has guts and some skill, but a lot of holes, like I said before, if Chuck were to repeat, he would probably open up those holes and makes some damaging wounds... I think Chucks right hand is losing some of its sting .. just my opinion, but he landed a few on Jardine, they cut him up but nothing serious, and on Wandy.. .gosh my guys tough, but seriously, Chuck must have lost some zip because he admitted after the fight that he landed flush and no dice the whole fight.. Dunno, I think that Forrest is entertaining, and is peaking .. but I don't see TUF1 beating Rampage either.. I think Forrest will get beaten in that fight, Rampage has enough power to do what Jardine did to him and worse.. I was seriously, just stirring the pot for kicks and grins.. and I do focus on right and wrong waaay too much.. lol for you guys anyways but for me its right.. everything is relative to you so what do you care..

Jardine should never have fought Wandy, they told him he would get next shot at the title after forrest I guarantee if he won, that’s the only incentive I could see for him to sign on.. he has guts and some skill, but a lot of holes, like I said before, if Chuck were to repeat, he would probably open up those holes and makes some damaging wounds… I think Chucks right hand is losing some of its sting .. just my opinion, but he landed a few on Jardine, they cut him up but nothing serious, and on Wandy.. .gosh my guys tough, but seriously, Chuck must have lost some zip because he admitted after the fight that he landed flush and no dice the whole fight..

Dunno, I think that Forrest is entertaining, and is peaking .. but I don’t see TUF1 beating Rampage either.. I think Forrest will get beaten in that fight, Rampage has enough power to do what Jardine did to him and worse..

]]> By: bvrasp http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15341 bvrasp Wed, 28 May 2008 03:56:22 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15341 Kansas, you focus too much on right and wrong, im just stating my opinion. Me and Richard hardly EVER see eye to eye on anything, in this case we agree, but that doesnt mean were right and everyone who disagrees is wrong hehe. Like you said, this is what the HQ is all about. Kansas, you focus too much on right and wrong, im just stating my opinion. Me and Richard hardly EVER see eye to eye on anything, in this case we agree, but that doesnt mean were right and everyone who disagrees is wrong hehe.

Like you said, this is what the HQ is all about.

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15340 MMAKansas Wed, 28 May 2008 03:52:42 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15340 I think Houston and Jardine are in the same catagory, look at the win loss ratio.. fact that Jardine is a former TUF guy that didn't win in the finals, and that 9 other times out of 10 Liddell would have stomped him.. actually I think Jardine was considered a CAN for Chuck by the organization.. lol .. he just worked a game that got him a split decision.. and Jardines talking TITLE SHOT all irritated and stuff... lack of promotion??? lol .. you guys are hollering about money?? the guy signed the contract, he was a nobody, he didn't even win the TUF contract so get over it.. it's on him, if he didn't WANT IT, he could go back to rage in the freaking cage or doing "WRESTLING" events with gatties... other thing is that he never deserved a title shot just because he knocked out Forrest, well now Wandy knocked out Jardine so what? He wont get a shot at it, he will have to fight Forrest, Chuck II, or some other LHW to get a shot guaranteed.. and he was Champion in PRIDE which ZUFFA owns for 5 years so if any org jumper deserves an immediate title shot its Wanderlei.. I think Houston and Jardine are in the same catagory, look at the win loss ratio.. fact that Jardine is a former TUF guy that didn’t win in the finals, and that 9 other times out of 10 Liddell would have stomped him.. actually I think Jardine was considered a CAN for Chuck by the organization.. lol .. he just worked a game that got him a split decision.. and Jardines talking TITLE SHOT all irritated and stuff… lack of promotion??? lol .. you guys are hollering about money?? the guy signed the contract, he was a nobody, he didn’t even win the TUF contract so get over it.. it’s on him, if he didn’t WANT IT, he could go back to rage in the freaking cage or doing “WRESTLING” events with gatties… other thing is that he never deserved a title shot just because he knocked out Forrest, well now Wandy knocked out Jardine so what? He wont get a shot at it, he will have to fight Forrest, Chuck II, or some other LHW to get a shot guaranteed.. and he was Champion in PRIDE which ZUFFA owns for 5 years so if any org jumper deserves an immediate title shot its Wanderlei..

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15339 MMAKansas Wed, 28 May 2008 03:47:40 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15339 Just because you two agreed doesn't mean your right.. lol.. if I go get 30 other people to agree with my post, and it's a total wash, that doesn't make it right eh? Just because you two agreed doesn’t mean your right.. lol.. if I go get 30 other people to agree with my post, and it’s a total wash, that doesn’t make it right eh?

]]> By: richard http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15338 richard Wed, 28 May 2008 03:37:17 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15338 bvrasp thanks for the back up im not saying jardine is the same level as wandy just he aint no alexander.And 10 grand aint sh*it the ufc should be ashamed. bvrasp
thanks for the back up im not saying jardine is the same level as wandy just he aint no alexander.And 10 grand aint sh*it the ufc should be ashamed.

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15337 MMAKansas Wed, 28 May 2008 03:32:49 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15337 ehh.. I think you just wasted a whole column's worth of insight on a tier two fighter.. my opinion solely, hey thats what MMAHQ is for right? .. lol ehh.. I think you just wasted a whole column’s worth of insight on a tier two fighter.. my opinion solely, hey thats what MMAHQ is for right? .. lol

]]> By: PATRICK http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/05/27/ufc-84-ill-will-fighter-payouts/comment-page-1/#comment-15336 PATRICK Wed, 28 May 2008 01:21:06 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=1604#comment-15336 I dunno if its dre who's slackin or if its dana...I dunno.. I dunno if its dre who’s slackin or if its dana…I dunno..

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