Comments on: EliteXC: CBS Saturday Night Fights Recap

By: MMAKansas

MMAKansas — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:12:43 +0000

hehe… yeah your too used to arguing with me Richard.. everyone and everything is KANSAS NOW… lol

By: bvrasp

bvrasp — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:54:24 +0000

i can explain it, stupid judge. Its a pity but the fact is mma officials play a VERY big role in the fights. Between the refs, the doctors and the judges, there alot of places the machine can break down.

If you dont have good officials the show, the fighters and the fans all suffer, thats the main problem Elite is facing.

why didnt they let mazzagatti ref that match?

By: richard

richard — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:14:22 +0000

kansas
how do u explain a judge scoring a 10-9 round for kimbo in the second.Theres no way u can explain that NO WAY!

By: bvrasp

bvrasp — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:02:09 +0000

ya, you could always download it if you want RJ.

By: R.J. St.Croix

R.J. St.Croix — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:34:13 +0000

yeah i get ya B, it almost seems like Dan Miragliotta “knew” was supposed to win so he just helped thing along a bit. it kinda sucks that i didnt get to record the show because i would like to go back and watch a few parts, mostly the thing about Shaw talking to the ref between round because i didnt notice it when i watched it before, but i was talking to my wife and making a sandwich between rounds. lol it figures i record just about every little bit of MMA that shows up on my TV (DVD recorder) and the one time i run out of discs a bunch of stuff i want to record passes me by, i would gladly trade Jungle Fight 1-6 for last weeks WEC event lol.

By: bvrasp

bvrasp — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:42:43 +0000

Im not saying it was fixed and everyone was bought off, im saying theres favortism going on and alot of people wanted Kimbo to win that fight.

By: R.J. St.Croix

R.J. St.Croix — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:36:04 +0000

one thing that makes me believe the fight was not fixed is the idea that Shaw and Elite have to buy a lot of people to pull it off. think about it like this they would a least have to pay off the ref, and there is no way ANYONE is going to help fix a fight for nothing. if it was discovered that Dan Miragliotta helped to fix the fight imagine sh*t he would go though, i dont believe for a second that he would do it just because Shaw asked him to, or even if he offered a couple hundred grand, judges are the same story. these people have lives and families and reputations to look after, and i know most everyone has there price but do you really think Shaw is going to break the bank just to make sure Kimbo wins against a guy that he was supposed to run over anyways?

By: bvrasp

bvrasp — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:44:25 +0000

Doc i agree the elbowing thing was unprecedented, but considering they were VERY light elbows, i understand the arguement to keep it going, being the main event etc..

Thompson was trying to “get the stoppage” instead of actually trying to finish Kimbo. Instead of pitter patting away for 60 sec, he would have been more effective throwing 2-3 BIG shots, maybe cut Kimbo or something.

the PROBLEM i had, was after being very lenient with Kimbo and letting him survive till the 3rd, he suddenly became over protective of Thompson and called the fight lol.

the ref has to be consistant, treat both guys the same way, wether its protective or lenient.

By: Dr J

Dr J — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:41:16 +0000

While I don’t think the “fix was in” I definitely think the fight should have been stopped during round 2 when Kimbo was just getting continuously elbowed in the head while up against the cage. He couldn’t defend himself at all, and while he obviously didn’t get KO’d in that position, I’ve never seen a fight go nearly 60 seconds while one fighter is just getting elbowed in the head.

By: bvrasp

bvrasp — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:55:55 +0000

ya there were alot of things that made it look like they were ensuring Kimbo would win one way or another.

- the ref standing them up

- the ref not stopping the fight when kimbo was eating those bows

- Shaw talking to the ref right before round 3

- the premature stoppage

- the bias scorecard

its pretty clear whats going on, i dont think its Kimbos fault tho, the guys paid to fight, if they overhype him, or cheat to help him win, nothing he can do about it.