Comments on: Bisping vs Leben Aftermath http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/ ...MMA News and Analysis... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:22:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: R.J. St.Croix http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17342 R.J. St.Croix Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:34:48 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17342 i fully understand what your saying about it being legit sport therefor the best should fight the best and new faces should work there way up, that is the formula for most combat sports, but my thought was that no combat sport have ever really been mainstream (not even boxing) and the sports that are mainstream are the ones that everyone will meet everyone in the course of a season. lets use hockey as the example, if the Montreal Canadians are in first place and the Toronto Maple Leafs are in last it doesnt mean they cant or wont compete against each other, they still meet and it gives Montreal and chance to improve there hold over the top spot and it gives Toronto the chance to build them selves up by beating the best team and by the end of the year you might see them being #1 and #2 instead of #1 and #27, so just because Joe Blow cant beat Bisping doesnt mean he cant beat Anderson because the way to find the "real" best is for everyone to fight everyone and the guy who lost the least is the best. just the way i see it anyway. i fully understand what your saying about it being legit sport therefor the best should fight the best and new faces should work there way up, that is the formula for most combat sports, but my thought was that no combat sport have ever really been mainstream (not even boxing) and the sports that are mainstream are the ones that everyone will meet everyone in the course of a season. lets use hockey as the example, if the Montreal Canadians are in first place and the Toronto Maple Leafs are in last it doesnt mean they cant or wont compete against each other, they still meet and it gives Montreal and chance to improve there hold over the top spot and it gives Toronto the chance to build them selves up by beating the best team and by the end of the year you might see them being #1 and #2 instead of #1 and #27, so just because Joe Blow cant beat Bisping doesnt mean he cant beat Anderson because the way to find the “real” best is for everyone to fight everyone and the guy who lost the least is the best. just the way i see it anyway.

]]> By: Dr J http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17339 Dr J Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:55:42 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17339 of course I can man. I can tell everything that goes on at MMA HQ. of course I can man. I can tell everything that goes on at MMA HQ.

]]> By: richard http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17337 richard Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:46:11 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17337 with elitexc out the game now what about lawler hes a pertty good striker the only 185er i see beating silva,and i know im going to get some shit for this one,is kung le maybe? with elitexc out the game now what about lawler hes a pertty good striker the only 185er i see beating silva,and i know im going to get some **** for this one,is kung le maybe?

]]> By: bvrasp http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17336 bvrasp Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:24:00 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17336 I personally said NO to this, though theres not many guys in the division, that shouldnt be an excuse to throw Bisping to the wolves this early as a MW. He would get crushed and he wouldnt be at a level where he could learn something from the loss, it would just be pointless in my opinion. If the division is weak, they should scout more MW talent, theres alot of guys out there in different organizations they could draw from. This way they could intrigue Anderson by giving him a real test thereby making him train even harder. Righ now he never gets to fight, hes so bored in the UFC hes planning retirement for gods sake lol. I personally said NO to this, though theres not many guys in the division, that shouldnt be an excuse to throw Bisping to the wolves this early as a MW. He would get crushed and he wouldnt be at a level where he could learn something from the loss, it would just be pointless in my opinion.

If the division is weak, they should scout more MW talent, theres alot of guys out there in different organizations they could draw from. This way they could intrigue Anderson by giving him a real test thereby making him train even harder. Righ now he never gets to fight, hes so bored in the UFC hes planning retirement for gods sake lol.

]]> By: richard http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17334 richard Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:53:16 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17334 there was a interesting fight floating a round {bj penn vs anderson silva}but dana white said no fu#king way ,i mention this cuz theres only so many guys anderson could fight without the higher ups stepping in the way there was a interesting fight floating a round {bj penn vs anderson silva}but dana white said no fu#king way ,i mention this cuz theres only so many guys anderson could fight without the higher ups stepping in the way

]]> By: richard http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17333 richard Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:51:22 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17333 but the ufc is based on giving guys shots that dont deserve it who did anderson silva faught before he got a shot what about brock lesnar? but the ufc is based on giving guys shots that dont deserve it who did anderson silva faught before he got a shot what about brock lesnar?

]]> By: Zak http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17332 Zak Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:39:09 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17332 If Anderson Silva's retirement isn't a bunch of bull shit, I will be extremely pissed off if his last few fights are against Cote and Bisbing. He says he's done everything he could hope to do in MMA but for him to think that is quite astonishing, considering there is still a whole other weight class that he is obviously capable of fighting in. If he wants to be remembered as the uncontested best pound for pound fighter out there, guys like Liddell, Silva or any big name in the 205 division would be ideal. Too bad him and Machida are friends, that would be the technical match of our lifetime. If Anderson Silva’s retirement isn’t a bunch of bull ****, I will be extremely pissed off if his last few fights are against Cote and Bisbing. He says he’s done everything he could hope to do in MMA but for him to think that is quite astonishing, considering there is still a whole other weight class that he is obviously capable of fighting in. If he wants to be remembered as the uncontested best pound for pound fighter out there, guys like Liddell, Silva or any big name in the 205 division would be ideal. Too bad him and Machida are friends, that would be the technical match of our lifetime.

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17331 MMAKansas Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:10:15 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17331 One more thought on Bisping v Leben - - Leben needs to learn to lay back a bit and draw his opponents in.. if he would have been more patient in the 1st round, he could have FORCED Bisping to move in (he would have after hearing boos for inactivity from the HOME crowd) and then Leben could have landed the left- instead he just pushed forward over and over and over --- wandy changed his game recently which I actually thought was pretty good, he waited and baited Jardine, and when Jardine felt the pressure to move in, Wand opened up on his holes and exploited Jardines movements, he countered and took the fight right off... I think Leben as a power puncher should learn to diversify his game as well and soon before 30 so we can see him fight for the title again, otherwise we might see him as a gatekeeper and nothing more than.. One more thought on Bisping v Leben – - Leben needs to learn to lay back a bit and draw his opponents in.. if he would have been more patient in the 1st round, he could have FORCED Bisping to move in (he would have after hearing boos for inactivity from the HOME crowd) and then Leben could have landed the left- instead he just pushed forward over and over and over — wandy changed his game recently which I actually thought was pretty good, he waited and baited Jardine, and when Jardine felt the pressure to move in, Wand opened up on his holes and exploited Jardines movements, he countered and took the fight right off… I think Leben as a power puncher should learn to diversify his game as well and soon before 30 so we can see him fight for the title again, otherwise we might see him as a gatekeeper and nothing more than..

]]> By: MMAKansas http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17330 MMAKansas Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:05:31 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17330 Listen guys, I was the guy a year ago SCREAMING about the unfairness of TITO getting another title shot ect - I don't like it when people get title shots based on "thats really what its about, putting on a good show for the fans" which basically puts MMA on a wrestling only real level. If it ever is going to become a SPORT it needs to be based on RANKINGS, and WINS, and NOT on popularity only or personality or expansion into a country for the purposes of only making a profit. SPORT v SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT = TWO DIFFERENT THINGS - and I think Bisping has NOT earned a shot because WHO THE HECK HAS HE REALLY FOUGHT AT 185??????????????? Lets see him fight a guy that Silva has beaten besides Leben, how about ohhhh sayyyyy DAN HENDERSON or perhaps a fight with RICH FRANKLIN dropping back down??? A former title holder first, then THE title holder... don't just GIVE him the shot based on "WHY NOT" .. lol Listen guys, I was the guy a year ago SCREAMING about the unfairness of TITO getting another title shot ect – I don’t like it when people get title shots based on “thats really what its about, putting on a good show for the fans” which basically puts MMA on a wrestling only real level. If it ever is going to become a SPORT it needs to be based on RANKINGS, and WINS, and NOT on popularity only or personality or expansion into a country for the purposes of only making a profit. SPORT v SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT = TWO DIFFERENT THINGS – and I think Bisping has NOT earned a shot because WHO THE HECK HAS HE REALLY FOUGHT AT 185??????????????? Lets see him fight a guy that Silva has beaten besides Leben, how about ohhhh sayyyyy DAN HENDERSON or perhaps a fight with RICH FRANKLIN dropping back down??? A former title holder first, then THE title holder… don’t just GIVE him the shot based on “WHY NOT” .. lol

]]> By: richard http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2008/10/20/bisping-vs-leben-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-17328 richard Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:26:34 +0000 http://www.mmahq.com/?p=2117#comment-17328 i also voted yes,i say who else is left in the 185lb division,and if patrick cote got a shot then there should be no problems with bisbing. i also voted yes,i say who else is left in the 185lb division,and if patrick cote got a shot then there should be no problems with bisbing.

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